My experience with the freesound extension (use case)

[brentcool]

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My experience with freesound extension:

Just quickly writing this up in gedit while trying out the freesound extension. (Note that I haven't tested out this extension in about a month and a half). Right now I'm just doing what comes instinctively and writing it down sentence after sentence.

The first time I ran FSE (freesound extension) I searched for "drum" and hit enter. While FSE was searching, I got the compulsive urge to click the "History" tab because I was curious to see what it did. Jokosher then hard froze, and I think it was because I was clicking the "history" tab while simultaneously the FSE was searching.

I killed Jokosher and started it up again. I added a drumkit instrument. I opened the FSE again, searched for "drum" and the results came back OK.

The coolest part about the results was the "play" button because I love getting immediate feedback so that I can try em all out to my heart's content. I actually found it more usable than the freesound site itself (with regards to playing back a bunch of clips back-to-back)!

I feel a little anxious about there being no "stop" button next to each of the clips, and I get the impulse to play a measure-long clip and then immediately play another clip before the first clip is done, just to see what happens. (don't ask me why i did this! for some reason I instinctively "stress-test" an application anytime I'm greeted by something a tad unfamiliar. I think I'm trying to familiarize myself with the new behavior.) I find out quickly that a stop button isn't needed; it just interrupts the first clip with the second clip. Moving on...

I found a clip I wanted to add, but I was unsure how to add it to my "drumkit" track. I don't see any "add to track" button. I remember being asked by david_corrales to see if I had any trouble with drag and dropping the clips onto the track, so I figured that must be the only way. I probably would've tried that anyway.

I dragged a full-measure clip onto the track (about 4 seconds into the track) and it loaded perfectly. Hit play, sounds good.

I drag a second clip (this time just a quick bass hit) at about the 2 second mark. I hit play. The bass hit clip plays, but my first clip that I imported just gets skipped over and I don't hear anything. I figure it's a bug.

Now I'm curious to see how it handles two simultaneous tracks, since I envision creating a project with looping simultaneous drum tracks.

I add another drumkit instrument. This time I drag and drop a clip three times at random places on my second track to create 3 clip instances. I hit play. Again only the first clip actually played back audio. The good news, though, was that the *first* clips on each of the separate two tracks at least played. There seems to be no problem with Jokosher playing these clips simultaneously. The problem is with sequential clips being dropped onto the track. For some reason only the first clip in the sequence per track plays for me.

At this point, I'm wondering how I will repeat these clip loops into a long sequence (once the sequence-playback-bug gets worked out in the future). I want to test this because I would like to create a song with a looping drum'n'bass-ish track in the background and maybe record my guitar on top of that. Even though I know the sequence won't work at this point (because of above-mentioned bug), I'm curious to see how to loop a clip over a long period of time.

After diddlying around with the clips a bit, I figure the only way to achieve is to copy the clip and hit ctrl+v a bunch of times on the track. This seems like a bit of a hack, but if it works then hey good enough for me. I hit ctrl+v 16 times and I get about 10 seconds worth of audio. I think to myself that it would be a pain to be to actually create a real 5 minute song. Hit ctrl+v a zillion times? I dunno.

Another thing thats sort of hacky is that the clips don't seem to line up flush next to each other. There appears to be a slight gap in between each clip even though I'm pushing them as close to each other as possible. If I were trying to loop a clip to make a whole song, I would be bit disheartened if the whole thing didn't have perfect and steady tempo. The gaps between the clips suggest to me (whether it is the case or not) that the clip-sequence will not be perfectly on beat.

I check out the history tab in the FSE and it looks handy. Maybe I'll use it later. Definitely if I use clips in a real project.

Overall the FSE looks really cool and a huge improvement in stability and search speed since the last time I checked it out. Most of the problems I found with the searching-freesound-in-jokosher-experience was actually with jokosher itself rather than the extension, now that I think of it. That's all!

[mxsteini]

Hi brentcool,
I was flying about your thread and I can say, that I have the same problems.
I was playing a little bit with the downloaded files and found the following out:
If you take the downloaded file trough lame or oggenc or whatever it is working.
Though I come to the result, that it must be a little bug in the FSE. Something like not closing the file correct after downloading.
So, how is the way to bring that in?

[centx]

I have this problem too, running 0.9.0 on ubuntu 7.10. Is this fixed, or still an issue?